A Personal Story

Submitted: May 2, 2005

Shared by: Claudia living in the US

Age: 38
Weight: 115
Height: 5' 4"

Did you have a pregnancy test? Yes, at home and at the clinic.
What was the result. Positive
If more than one test was taken please include info for each one. Mine was a store brand home pregnancy test, and I don't know which one they used at the clinic.

How was the pregnancy ended? Herbal Abortion
Were you successful in using the herbs? Yes
Would you try herbs again, or recommend them to a friend in the same situation? I'm not going to get myself into another situation like this, but yes, I would do the herbs again, and I would recommend it to my friends as well.

Is there anything that clued you in that the herbs might be working before bleeding started? I stopped feeling pregnant on the days I stopped the herbs, 4 days before I started bleeding, my emotions became stable again.

Is this your first pregnancy? No.

How many weeks pregnant were you when the herbs were started? Approximately 2 1/2 to 3 weeks.
For how many days were the herbs used (total)? 10 days

What was the date bleeding started if herbs were successful? I had short spotting for a day, exactly one week after the herbs were started, which stopped the following day. On Monday, I spotted again for about 2 hours, and then it stopped again. The final bleeding started in the night, towards the early morning hours 4 days later.

Were you using birth control? yes
What kind/method of birth control/contraception were you using? cycle method
Do you know how/why it failed? I miss-counted the days.
If you were not using birth control, please share why not. the cycle method has worked for 13 years. I prefer the natural method over chemicals, and I never tolerated the pill well.

Did you experience any symptoms or signs of pregnancy? Extreme emotional rollercoaster, slight nausea, and sore nipples.

Please include a summary of dosage information.
The first 4 days, (from 4/15 at 7 pm through 4/19) I took the following herbs at 7 am, noon, 4 pm, 8 pm, 11 pm, and approximately 3 am:

1 cup of tea prepared with: 2 teaspoons dried pennyroyal, 1/2 ts dried rue, 1/2 ts dried tansy, 1 ml Blue Cohosh extract in Alcohol base, 1 ml Black Cohosh extract in Alcohol base.

On the 5th day, I increased the rue and tansy to 1 ts each dose, the rest stayed the same, as did the times.

On day 6, added 1 ml of Dong Quai extract in alcohol base, mixed with orange juice and 2000 mg Vitamin C every dose (times remained as listed above).

On Friday, 4/22, I ended the Pennyroyal/Rue/Tansy tea, and took 1 ml Blue Cohosh, 1 ml Black Cohosh, 1 1/2 ml Dong Quai with 1500 mg Vitamin C in Orange Juice every 3 to 4 hours throughout the day, and about once during nighttime.

The first 2 days, I did several mediations where I visualized meeting my child, explaining to her why I had to let her go and why I couldn't keep her, I explained to her that I loved her very much, and I asked her to return to the Goddess and to find a home ready for a child. I visualized walking her out of my womb, and sending her spirit towards my best friend, who is trying to get pregnant right now.

Also, on the nights of 4/22, 4/23, and 4/24, I meditated in the yard by the full moon, focusing on the pull the moon had on my uterus, releasing the spirit again towards the full moon.

I stopped the herbs on Monday, 4/25, since I figured 10 days was long enough, and I had an appointment for a chemical abortion at the clinic. However, I stopped feeling pregnant Monday morning, even though my nipples still hurt, my emotions were level again. Also, I had started cramping right after I started the Dong Quai, and I experienced light spotting on Friday, 4/22 and Monday, 4/25, and I continued to lightly cramp off and on. When I came to the clinic on Wednesday, the first test showed negative, but the high-sensitivity test still showed pregnant. An ultrasound showed nothing, so I was sent home with the comment that I was too early in my pregnancy. I told the doctor that I believed my pregnancy had already been ended, and that the hormones in the test were just the leftovers, but they were stuck on me being pregnant, and on me coming back a week later.

On Thursday night, 4/28 (3 days after herbs were stopped), I started cramping and I had a sharp kind of pain in my lower left abdomen...nothing really strong, and when I lightly pressed my belly, the pain would subside, as did it with movement (to rule out ectopic pregnancy). On the morning of 4/29, 4 days after the herbs were stopped, I woke up bleeding. The cramping was heavier and sharper than with a regular period, the bleeding was only slightly heavier than normal , with little bits of tissue in it. On the evening of 5/1, the embryonic sack passed, with hardly any cramping at all. (that is today).

Side effects.
How did the herbs affect you? The only symptom I had was slight nausea, but I think that was pregnancy-related (I had morning sickness for the first 3 months with my son). After adding Dong Quai, I had a slight headache, but only intermittently...no painkillers were necessary.

Any positive effects? The combination had a relaxing effect on me.
Where there any negative effects? No.
Do you have any health problems or issues? No.

How did the herbs make you feel physically? I was overall tired and nauseated, but those are pregnancy-related as well. I think overall I felt a bit out of it, but it was an emotional time, because I ended the relationship during the same time.

How did being pregnant make you feel physically? Tired and extremely emotional, and slightly nauseated.

If the herbs caused miscarriage -- how did you feel just before bleeding began? And when bleeding started - How was the bleeding, cramping, etc?

Many women would like to know more about this part. If you can describe what it was like for you it would be helpful.

Before I began bleeding, at first I just started light cramping. Then, on Friday night, the cramping got stronger, and I started spotting. I almost had a heart attack! For a minute, I was really scared that something could go wrong. But then I relaxed because I realized that the herbs did exactly what the chemical abortion would have done, only naturally, and less abrupt, with elements that support and tone the body as well, unlike the chemicals. When I started spotting, my herbalist told me to "chuck it up" and take the herbs even a bit closer together, but by Saturday afternoon, the bleeding had stopped again. On Monday morning, I stopped the herbs, because I didn't want to risk overstressing my liver and kidneys, plus, I had an appointment for a chemical abortion on Wednesday, and because of possible drug interactions, I wanted to have to "clean" days before the appointment. HOWEVER, I could tell on Monday morning that the pregnancy was ended, since my emotional rollercoaster ride had stopped. I felt normal again. So my assumption was that the herbs were successful in terminating the pregnancy, just not in expelling the embryonic sack.

When I went into the clinic, the first test showed negative, and only the highly sensitive early pregnancy test showed positive. The ultrasound didn't show anything. The clinic's interpretation was that my pregnancy was still too early. I told them that I believed that I was not pregnant anymore, they just sent me home and told me to return next week, when I was further along. On Thursday, I did hard physical work all day long, and I felt quite crampy as well, so I took 2 doses of Dong Quai and Blue Cohosh (2 ml each in Orange Juice), to stimulate the uterus. Friday morning, I woke up and started bleeding. The bleeding was only slightly heavier than my periods are usually, but the cramping was definitely stronger than during a normal period. Still, nothing that ibuproven couldn't take care of. It was kind of a pulling, stabbing cramping type... The painful cramping only lasted for the first day. When the sack passed, I didn't cramp at all, and it didn't hurt, either. But right afterwards, I experienced lower back pain, and it stayed like that half of the night. Now, the bleeding is to a normal period level, even though still lumpy, and the cramping is almost all gone. Could you reflect on the process of a herbal abortion and write a paragraph about it. I would like to add something of this nature to my website, but would like other experiences to draw upon besides my own. Thanks.

It was a very educational, emotional and empowering experience. When I found out I was pregnant, 4 days after my period was due, I knew right away I couldn't keep the child. I'm a single mother of a 5-year-old, and I had just broken up with the father of this pregnancy (he was emotionally abusive and I found out he had cheated on me). Still, I could tell from the pregnancy and the way I felt that it was a girl, I always wanted a girl. The reason why I opted to try out an herbal abortion is because I felt it was a more natural way of ending the pregnancy. Plus, I've been studying herbs for a long time now, and I've seen them work wonders, so I had faith in the process of the herbal abortion. Between what my herbalist told me, what I read on the site, and what I got out of my medicinal plant Encyclopedia, I put together a regime.

Because the process takes time, and you are required to pay very close attention to your body, plus you have to remember all the doses and wake up in the middle of the night, it is a very intense experience. But I felt that exactly that made it a spiritual experience as well, and a complete one in terms of connecting with the little spirit within, making amends, and spiritually and psychologically releasing the spirit back to the Goddess.

At times it was a bit scary, because despite the fact that I've been working with herbs for almost 8 years now, I'm still amazed and sometimes overwhelmed by their power. And of course, during my research, I found all those sites that keep on citing the one case of the girl that bled badly when it was admitted to the ER. It was easy to see that this case had nothing to do with herbal abortion as such (the girl ingested essential oil of Pennyroyal, which is an absolute no-no, plus she had an ectopic pregnancy). But still, I'm single mom to a 5-year-old, so of course I thought of everything that could go wrong. I also realized that the same things could go wrong with the chemical abortion. The herbs work the same way the chemical abortion does, some constituents work hormonal by reducing the amount of progesterone produced by the body (hence making it impossible for the egg to implant, or survive), and other constituents work by stimulating the uterus.

I think because it was such a conscious process, and it took 10 days of herbs and another 4 days of waiting around until the bleeding started, my body was better prepared for the process. With the chemical abortion, it sounds like your body is swamped with those megadoses of chemicals that stop the progesterone production in a very short period of time, and then they put other powerful chemicals on your cervix which forces it, again, very quickly, to release. With the herbs, everything happens in tune with the body, giving the body a chance to slowly adapt, and to prepare. I really recommend trying an herbal abortion before going into the clinic for a chemical or surgical one. The good thing is that by the time you are far enough along for a chemical abortion, you will already know whether the herbal one has worked or not...that is, if you start early enough.

I think what is really important for the success of an herbal abortion is to take the herbs regularly, to start within 3 to 4 days of the time your period is due (I started 4 days later), and I personally felt that the Dong Quai and the Blue Cohosh were the most effective. Also, believing that it will work is an important psychological factor, and I believe that missed periods that were due around new moon are more likely to succeed in an herbal abortion because the herbal abortion will be supported by the pull of the full moon.

Your Story -
I think I've pretty much put my stories into the questions above. Only one more thing: the experience of this herbal abortion had a profound effect on me. I've finally decided to go ahead with my MA in traditional Chinese Medicine and to make holistic health my life purpose. Because could you imagine how wonderful it would be to have a doctor that can help you with an herbal abortion and put your mind at ease during those moments when you start panicking again, and you wonder whether you are doing the right thing?

Is there anything you would have done differently? I would have started Don Quai and Vitamin C earlier.

There are many lessons that can be learned from an experience such as this, Do you feel you have learned something from this experience? If so what? I've learned to finally trust 100 percent into herbs. I have treated my depression successfully with herbs for years, as well as many other more common ailments. I've replaced every single chemical medication I had with herbs now, and already, today was able to lower a 104 fever in my son to 100, just by herbal tea.

Thank you so much for your great site, and the wonderful information. Keep up the good work!

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